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ORDER IN THE CHURCH .....SOME TESTIMONIES

The Apostle Paul had set certain guidelines for a believer's conduct in the church.

1 Cor 14:23
23 So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?

1 Cor 14:27-28
27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two-- or at the most three-- should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret.
28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God. (NIV)

Speaking in tongues in the church should be done one at a time and should be followed by interpretation. The reason.....

1 Cor 14:33
33 For God is NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION but of peace, as in ALL THE CHURCHES OF THE SAINTS. (NKJ) Emphasis Mine

Paul says there must be order in ALL THE CHURCHES OF THE SAINTS AND NOT IN SOME CHURCHES ONLY! SPEAKING OF ORDER, THERE WAS LAUGHTER EVEN WHEN THE WORD OF GOD WAS BEING PREACHED!!!!! HOW CAN THE HOLY SPIRIT LAUGH AT THE WORD OF GOD? One does not have to be a genius to know that a person cannot laugh and hear the Word of God at the same time!

God's people are mocking at His WORD and even the communion service is not spared!!!

"One of Rodney Howard Browne's initiates, an Episcopal priest, likes to tell the story of how, after being "blessed" he went home to his Episcopal church and burst out laughing at the most solemn moment of the service, the consecration of the Eucharistic elements" Book entitled "Weighed and Found Wanting" by Pastor Bill Randles, page 25.

Now what about the ministry of our Lord Jesus. He had the Spirit without measure (John 3:34), yet no one laughed during the three and a half years of His ministry! Neither was there any laughter, when Apostle Paul or Apostle Peter ministered in the Book of Acts.
Should we emulate Our Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul or Rodney Howard-Browne?

1 Cor 11:1
1 Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ. (NIV)

" They had used the Holy Spirit to play a joke on the people, and the people had joined in on the frivolity.........Being frivolous with each other is one thing. Frivolity with God is another. In the Old Testament, such behavior as I had just witnessed would have resulted in immediate death......"
Article entitled "The Toronto Revival" by Ron Owens, page 2.

SOME TESTIMONIES

"Yet what I witnessed during my visit to the Vineyard was absolute bedlam. (Indeed, this has been true *every* time I had visited an evening service at the Vineyard. ) Several people were "pogoing in the spirit" (jumping up and down); three women were lying on the floor (rather indelicately) going through imaginary birth pangs, while a male minister stood over them, shouting "Birth it! Birth it!"; four teenage girls lay tangled together on the floor, experiencing some sort of shared convulsions; an overweight and unkempt man ran around the perimeter of the floor, waving his arms and flinging sweat; a young woman, seemingly oblivious to all around her, went through some crude ballet-like motions; various people wept, laughed, barked like dogs, and roared like wild animals." PHILLIP JOHNSON, Internet phillipj@smardoc.com

".......Brazil Howard-Browne came to our former church for three weeks. His brother, Rodney, ministered for about six weeks before that at another local church. The wildest reports that we have received, however, were during the Mardi Gras in New Orleans this year. Rodney held a revival at a friend's church there. You must first understand that the Mardi Gras is as wild of a pagan orgy that you are likely to see anywhere. People will get drunk and run naked in the streets, having sex of all sorts, even with animals. Our Christian friends who were there all tell us that it was wilder inside the church with Rodney than outside.....Women would come up to give their testimonies about the joy of being "out under the power" and having wild orgasms..."
PAUL KRUSE, South Kenneth Court, Merritt Island, FL 32952, United States of America.

"Even the 100+ pastors and church leaders who were invited by RHB on the night of 18th to receive the "fire" by his laying of hands (more like waving), fell on backs except for a handful . Some of them were jerking and writhing on the floor. He even quipped that this was one of the greatest "laying" of hands service ever (RHB repeated the same on the night of 21st on a grander scale) and joked about a woman who fell on her back that she would survive and on another pastor who was rolling on his back with legs kicking in the air that the holy spirit was upon him! I also saw on the same night, a man acted out vigorously his gonfu stances before he fell backward on the floor while many more were jerking, screaming aloud and making animals-like noises. I saw no edification at all as a result of these manifestations. To borrow a remark from a sister-in-Christ who had witnessed similar manifestations in the US services: `this "anointing" is scandalous, blasphemous, and seductive. Carnal at the roots, it makes a mockery of our precious Saviour who died a serious and sober death on the cross to obtain for us the unending mercy of God through His grace. The humble, righteous and Holy character of God is openly ridiculed in these meetings, and a spirit no less than demonic is purporting to call itself the "Holy Spirit"'. Another local pastor who was at one of the day's services but didn't participate in the "anointing" shared that he was: `closed to tears to see so many pastors and church leaders being deceived and manipulated'....."
LOO KEE SIN, SINGAPORE

My name is Bob Lally and I live in upstate New York in the US. I have been in communication with George Koch in Chicago concerning the so called "Laughter Movement." First, please add me to a mailing list of updates on laughter.
Second, George mentioned that you believe it is completely demonic. I have already formed my views, based on this movement's direct one for one relationship with AN EASTERN RELIGION. I believe it is completely demonic and is Satan's last effort to fool the elect.
God bless you and your ministry.
Bob Lally, Internet:bobslally@aol.com

I watched a admittedly rather badly made film about it- more of a film of a meeting about the Toronto blessing. I've never felt so creeped before- it was utterly demonic- frankly, I wouldn't touch the stuff at all. --
MegaFlump, Internet:bod@mobot.demon.co.uk

"I am twenty-six years old, have been saved since I was fourteen and am a fourth generation Pentecostal. I must say that I am very saddened by the general lack of discernment that I see in the Christian church today.
I have seen this movement creep into many previous sound churches and cause nothing but confusion. I must also say that I am surprised at how many believers (many of whom are friends of mine), who were brought up in the truth, have been seemingly locked into the Vineyard teaching. I have tried to witness to them but they just seem so unreachable, even more unreachable than those who have never known the truth."
Ellen, Email address: Enichol@chat.carleton.ca

"My first exposure to this movement was about a year ago when I was flipping the TV channels around and landed on TBN where all these people were laughing hysterically. I watched it and I too noticed that God's Word was hardly spoken while all these people were emitting these peculiar sounds and doing the strangest things."
David Betz, Internet:drbetz@primenet.com

"One minister stands behind a couple who have asked for prayer for infertility. He holds his hands above their heads, palms down, and begins pumping vigorously up and down, as if he is pushing something into them....Another minister stands in front of a man seeking prayer. As he prays, his left hand rests on the man as his right hand scoops the air in a sideways motion, palm toward the man being prayed for, as if he is pulling SOMETHING OUT OF THE AIR AND SCOOPING IT INTO THE MAN'S BODY....Members of the congregation, both standing and lying on the floor, SCOOP their own hands toward themselves pleading, `MORE! GIVE
Holy Laughter Part II- "The Force"-or pumped, scooped, charged and slain by George B Koch, SCP Newsletter, Spring 1995. Emphasis Mine.

"I am a pastor in Bartlett, Illinois (suburb of Chicago). I recently signed on to the Internet and have gotten your remarks concerning the "Toronto Blessing" over the last two weeks. I couldn't agree with you more! I am very concerned over the sad state of the Evangelical Church in our day and the lack of discernment prevelant. A theology of experience, a man-centered theology has replaced a theology based on God's word. The principle of sola scriptura is being lost as Christians are being lured away from the Word of God as their sole authority by a host of satanic diversions. Keep up the good work! Hold forth the Word!"
Jim Mooberry, Internet Address:JimVCOB@aol.com

I thought that you might be interested to know that this morning we were visiting a nearby Foursquare Gospel Church, and just before the sermon, the pastor gave a report on the annual convention of the Foursquare Church that ended last night in Calgary. He said that it was a great time of fellowship, and that the presence of God was clearly felt, and that an orderly move of the spirit could be seen affecting people throughout the room. But as that began, he said a disruptive manifestation began in one corner, with laughing, shaking, and other disruptive manifestations. He went on to say that the stronger the move of God got, the more disruptive these other manifestations became. The chairman of the session spoke against the laughter and the disruptive manifestations, and commanded them to stop in the name of Jesus. They instantly stopped, and one man fell back against a wall......it stopped so abruptly. The pastor said that the incredible thing was the display of how mighty God's power was against these demonic manifestations, and that they didn't need the ushers to deal with it. They didn't need a "laughter room", a "shaking room" or "demon room"; all they needed was to command the demonic disruptions to cease in Jesus' name, and the spirits that were manifesting had to stop. He summarized by saying that anytime the Spirit of God manifests itself, or the Spirit of God is moving, we can expect Satan to try to disrupt the proceedings.
Regards,
Tom Smith, Internet address:tjsmith@freenet.calgary.ab.ca

1 Cor 14:40
Let all things be done decently and in order(NKJ)

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